1737 (GMT+8), with thousand oaks type 2+, I've to use ISO 1600 in order to hand held this setup:-

1738 (GMT+8), without the solar filter, I've to use ISO 100 plus f/64 and still got overexposure, never look into the view finder for this kind of shot, and make sure the sun is low enough in the sky with dense cloud/pollutant:-

Just a record.
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